Duelists are another of your primary damage dealers and really enjoy Berserk. Your team doesnt have to be perfect or built specifically to win legendary fights. Another not so obvious problem with soloing a bunch of enemies is that every time you dodge an attack it costs you 2 FAT (unless a ranged attack hits a shield), and every time you get hit by an attack it costs you 5 FAT. You can be very aggressive with 2Handers and/or Polearm users that have poor defense by having Footwork to get out of any halfway dangerous situations. Executioner can provide decent benefit against other human factions as well. Items placed in bags no longer give a penalty to maximum Fatigue, except for two-handed weapons. This can allow for a defensive Polearm build that is capable of having a shield out 100% of the time while still attacking every turn. Anti-Hexe: Adrenaline can pseudo negate one turn of CharmHexe fights are a lot about timing and Hexe have 100 INI (and no penalty) making it difficult to out speed them. You can deal injuries plenty enough without CS to make fine enough use of Executioner. Further, Tanks can very easily get over the 50 MDF soft cap (see Game Mechanics if you dont know what that means). Second being that morale drops with Fearsome were too unlikely to occur. A higher base RES will also make a bro more likely to succeed a Rally check from your Bannerman (see Rally for details). It is certainly a good option to have somewhere in the party, but you dont have to be taking it on everybody unless you like to do so. Adrenaline and Indom both got nerfed to kill the Adrenaline cycle which busts up the WotN meta. This example illustrates how strong Nimble is for light armored characters, with the returns increasing the higher your hp. Crossbows/Aimed Shot wont benefit as much due to their higher innate accuracy and lower rate of fire. Finally, Berserk depends on being able to consistently hit and kill things. For example, Taunting an Unhold 3 tiles away fighting a different bro will not stop the Unhold from throwing (the Taunt will have no effect at all in this case) Will not prevent Split Shield from being used Using Taunt on an enemy that cannot reach the Taunt user in any capacity will have no effect If an enemy is Taunted but then his or your position gets altered by something like Rotation and you are no longer in reach of each other then the Taunt will be ignored, Understanding AI nuance Will not make enemies brainless, and Taunt may be ignored if other AI factors outweigh it Does not work on Hexe Does not work on Beastmasters Will not prevent Ifrits from combining Will encourage enemies to engage into the Taunt users ZoC if there is an unobstructed means for them to do so, they are not already zoned, and they have already committed to fighting (meaning that if the enemy team is camping because they have ranged advantage, Taunt will not convince enemies to leave their line to go fight you) By extension, a unit like a Necromancer/Priest will not jump into your ZoC because you Taunted him. Legionaries have 0 MDF unshielded and 50 with solo Shieldwall (SW) Tower Shield. Hexe are one of the more dangerous enemies in the game and Resilient makes them significantly easier because being Charmed for 1 turn instead of 2 is a huge difference, and you can even negate the Charm entirely with good timing. Also good in the Library. 2H Flail, Greataxe: AoE attacks are awkwardThe spin-to-win AoE attacks are far harder to make use of but can gain huge value from Reach if you manage to get yourself surrounded by large groups of enemies. Forge bros can use their slow speed to get two turns out of activated skills when using Adrenaline. Picking Student gives your characters an extra 20% experience until they hit Level 11. Worse yet, attempting a rescue will turn off LW. Although Brawny also technically grants Initiative as well, it is hard to say how useful this is. Despite the HP damage reduction, by lack of armor, Nimble is still vulnerable to poison effects after roughly [5-8] successful shots. Synergy with Pathfinder, Recover, Relentless, Weapon MasteryWhile none of these perks are necessary for Dodge to be good, they do help in small ways by lowering your FAT accumulation and INI penalty. Misconception Gifted is only worth using on bad unitsNo. In the Black Monolith and Sunken Library, legendary locations filled with Undead resistant to piercing damage, being able to carry more Throwing Axes would prove especially useful. Valve Corporation. Also good against Swordmasters/Blade Dancers and other dodgy enemies, especially in the Arena where your normal counters and ganking may not be available. Buying and finding very heavy armor takes time which is why Forge, unlike Nimble, does not perform well in the early to mid game with mostly 200 durability armors. Blazing Deserts introduces three new grenades which are all good. They are not a package deal. More damage More killingFrenzy is a pretty straightforward perk. Rotation can allow you to better maneuver around tricky or tight terrain. This build is a good way to make use of a unit with high MSK and FAT but maybe has poor MDF as the shield can compensate. The less obvious question is how to evaluate going for a Duelist vs. a 2Hander. 6% chance of hitting heavy injury threshold in 2. I'm not saying that fatigue is ALWAYS bad on front liners. Dragon Quest IV : L'pope des lus. Indomitable/Rotation/Footwork/Shieldwall/Adrenaline/etc.Theres a lot of useful and expensive skills that you can get. Smoke Bombs: Anyone can Footwork nowThe new Smoke Bombs step on FWs shoes as an escape tool. However if it something you might use once or twice a battle then Recover shouldnt be necessary. Chosen mace has 60% Ignore armor and 115% Armor modifier. AoE and 3HF mechanics: Can only gain one stack per actionHH works same as FA here. Its not a rating scale. Anti-Polearm: Tanks can struggle to draw Polearms without TauntPolearm hordes (Ancient Dead) are highly threatening to your damage dealers and it is difficult for a regular tank to exert his influence over these enemies. Lindwurms while not technically immune are functionally immune because of their 1100 hp pool. Chosen (updated 8/11/20), Nimble Tests with Gifted/Steelbrow (updated 8/15/20), Nimble Tests With Medium Armor (updated 8/15/20), Nimble Tests with Famed Armor (and More) (slightly outdated), Unhold Fur Cloak vs. Goblins (updated 8/13/20), 10 defense (65% hit chance): death in 4.62 swings, 15 defense (60% hit chance): death in 5 swings (+.38), 40 defense (35% hit chance): death in 8.57 swings, 45 defense (30% hit chance): death in 10 swings (+1.43), 50 defense (25% hit chance): death in 12 swings, 56 defense (22% hit chance): death in 13.64 swings (+1.64), Shielding vs. ranged: no Fatigue incurred, 70 SKL vs. Pike Legion (70% hit chance): death in 4.29 swings, 90 SKL vs. Pike Legion (90% hit chance): death in 3.33 swings (.96), 70 SKL vs. SW Tower (20% hit chance): death in 15 swings, 90 SKL vs. SW Tower (40% hit chance): death in 7.5 swings (7.5), after armor damage, remaining head armor is 100, damage going through armor is 4 (14 10). Thats comparable to Brawny with two more bag slots on top. Dogs in general are great for getting more surround bonuses and more Backstabber value. Ive talked extensively about the high value of MDF and Overwhelm is essentially an increase in defense (by decreasing opponents skill). I dont put a huge value into this as in many ways this is a win-more effect to an already won battle, but it can speed things up especially if daggering down the last guy for armor. For example, by the end of a 20+ zombie fight you are probably pretty Fatigued, but do you really need Recover to mop of what is left? If you are going to be using Indomitable with your heavy armor then you can get away with a lower HP count as Indomitable + armor does a wonderful job at mitigating armor ignoring damage, but without Indomitable a low HP count is risky. You still want good defense. For example, Warbow can benefit a lot here. Finally, veteran levels are extremely slow and miss the point of the game. Dodge can help make up for that and it isnt uncommon for Fencers to start the battle with +20s from Dodge. There are some weaknesses to be aware ofThere are a few things to keep in mind on Berserk however. Goblin City is in a mountainThe Goblin City spawns on a mountain tile which means there is a decent chance the map generation will be disgusting. Armor attachments Additional Fur Padding preferredArguably, the best armor attachment for Forge is Additional Fur Padding (AFP). AFP addresses heavy armor weakness to AID while providing valuable injury resistance Bone Platings (BP) is a worthwhile but unreliable option and Nimble characters want this attachment Light Padding Replacement (LPR) can be considered if FAT is an issue, but it doesnt directly impact durability Attachments granting +40 durability offer the best value against weak to medium attacks, but do little against dangerous AID. 4AP attacks also have Berserk/Recover synergy if you use both of those. Recover is a good pickup if you intend to spam, but may not be needed if you intend to just have Indom as insurance or an opener. Landing a kill with a first 4 AP attack means you can Recover after Berserk which is an efficient use of AP/Fatigue. Brothers with natural low HP/high fatigue are better off just levelling HP every level and being nimble (or fatigue neutral). 10% injured on first shot. Shooting targets in the front can still lead to scatter shots, but they are less likely since you will be less likely to miss in the first place. Any bro who wants more statsReally. And without any armor that 60% damage reduction wont really halp much. Mid game a power spikeNimble has a tremendous impact on light armored characters and it can reasonably be accessed by day [30-40]. Footwork gives you an easy out. A scattered shot also does 25% less damage to the new tile/target. They include impactful accessories like nets, grenades or consumables, weapons granting reach, control (Whip or Mace) or shields for protection. Easy pickup here. Polehammer no longer gets -15% accuracy penalty for attacking adjacent targets. I want to put out a guide that is current to the existing DLC, that goes into a high level of detail and nuance for each perk and their general usefulness, while also providing use cases on when you might want to choose a specific perk. + Amazing in rough terrain or maps with hills+ Can save a lot of Fatigue Better with some weapons than others Not doing much in flat maps, Movement costsTerrain TypeNormal CostPathfinder CostDry Steppe/Road2 AP + 2 FAT2 AP + 1 FATGrass/Steppe/Tundra2 AP + 4 FAT2 AP + 2 FATDesert2 AP + 6 FAT2 AP + 3 FATForest/Snow/Muddy Earth3 AP + 6 FAT2 AP + 3 FATShallow Water (Oasis)4 AP + 12 FAT3 AP + 6 FATMurky Water (Swamp)4 AP + 14 FAT3 AP + 7 FAT, Changing terrain elevation increases AP cost by 1 and FAT cost by 4. Our Nimble bro is ~2.3x more durable and even beating the Forge brother here. 100 RSK archers are also very hard to find and lesser archers will of course benefit more. First release. In this scenario Underdog is going to be providing you only 5 defense because you can only ever be engaged by two enemies. Students will always be equal or behind in real perks compared to a non-student. So sure while your missed Bullseye shot might hit something else, the chance to hit and damage is reduced significantly. If you would like to see how helpful FA is with 80 MSK against some Chosen, refer tothis forum post. Nimbleforged is a thing. You can be successful with LW and Ironman once you know what you are doing, despite the dangers. View range and maximum firing range increased by 1. FAT neutral builds not as much. The bonus Dodge defense also makes it easier to safely ditch the shield so that you can use these weapons. QH is also popular on the Banner, so you can pack a Warscythe and do some AoE sweeps for Fearsome value, and then swap back to the Banner all in the same turn. You can also use Spearwall to delay the Warriors contact. Be wary, as they can do the same to you. However, given the chaotic nature of the battlefield, multiple brothers contributing damage, and damage rolls being variable, it is hard to predict how often Executioner helps or does not help. Reason one is that heavy armor already does a great job at protecting you from ranged fire. This also works on flat forest/snow/desert/mud allowing you to move for 3 Fatigue and swing for 12. Similar deal against Unholds and Lindwurms. You killed my father. Veteran levelsTechnically speaking, even though the XP bonus turns off at level 11, reaching 11 faster does mean you will be reaching veteran levels a bit sooner than non-students. Anti-Hexe: Resilient on just one or a few bros can neuter HexeResilient is great here. Just make sure your bro isnt in danger of Beasts before you wreck his health attacking the Hexe. 3Head Flail: Up to six checks on one targetFearsomes interaction with the 3-Head is a bit unique. But didn't take dodge on this guy, as that's just his normal mdef, and afaik "nimble" is on all the time is a directly impacted by the fat penatly of the armour and nothing else. By the time you are tiring, some or most of the enemies should be dead anyway. Even efficient stuff like Barbute + Heraldic Mail (from the Noble ambition) with Light Padding Replacement is not worth going NimbleForge. Even Hedge Knights can enjoy having Gifted, especially for stacking more MDF. For that reason and because quivers do not cost any FAT, Bags brings nothing to pure archers. + Very good against Hexen+ Status effects can be crippling/annoying, and less damage from bleeds Better on Nimble who tends to be more bothered by status than Forge Status effects are fairly rare Status effects are usually not too bothersome to devote a perk Less bleeding damage is not good enough reason to take Resilient over another defensive perk. Nimble makes do with cheap gear offering immediate return on the investment and beating most of the then available heavy armor options. The nice part about these Duelist options is that they deal consistently good damage without having to resort to special attacks or Orc penalties to do so. With all of those points in mind, people usually pass on 9L in favor of defensive perks that are more consistently helpful, and/or to use escape perks such as Rotation/Footwork. You can almost never have too much accuracy and you can never have too much defense due to increasing returns of high defense (see Game Mechanics). You can use CS and not use Executioner. So you are saying that I dont need RDF?Yes, thats exactly what Im saying. Gain an additional stacking +10% chance to hit with each attack that misses an opponent. A front liner and a back liner will get the same value out of Backstabber. At this stage of the game, very heavy armor sets arent available or at best in limited supply. It is very common for new players to misunderstand this, refer to the following picture for clarity, Polearms and melee units derive the same benefit from backstabber. Anyone who gives you the answer "high HP is nimble, high fatigue is BF" doesn't understand the game. The BD Fearsome buff is a concern for Nimble, who tend to get chipped for small hp damage through armor early. 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