In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Learn how your comment data is processed. all that accumulated grease and oil. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. You must log in or register to reply here. Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. Swapped! Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. Power will be greater with an LS swap. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? Any slk egne fit in there? I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. Connect common ground at intake manifold. Would you recomend doing this swap? If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. You must log in or register to reply here. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. via Oppositelock. It was built for the track and drifting. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. What engine can fit into this car? articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? Hi Adriano. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. ugh! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. Learn how your comment data is processed. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Is a swap possible? To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. I was just giving you a hard time. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. And if so is there no way around it? So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. JavaScript is disabled. Yup, that's John's car. It may not display this or other websites correctly. it isnt a direct swap. Originally Posted by Kestas. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. You are using an out of date browser. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Is that a street car? Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! these are quite uncommon. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. Navigation Menu . So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. All bolt-in, no welding required. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. Not needed anyhow. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. via Engine Swap Depot : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Bolt starter to transmission later. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 Sweden for a dyno tune. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. JavaScript is disabled. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. Wow, Thanks for all the info. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. Install without transmission. It barely sticks now when floored. My M104 is a 99 hfm. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Said it made around 345hp(?) I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Learn how your comment data is processed. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. JavaScript is disabled. It's 80%. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) 20cm is slightly too long). It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. His forum name is SG Motorsports. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. You are using an out of date browser. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. Makes a fantastic daily driver. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? Learn how your comment data is processed. . Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. Engine Swap Depot. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. JavaScript is disabled. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. Learn how your comment data is processed. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. When you find one, buy it. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. A Chevy LS motor cylinder, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft the tranny, and used a Mercedes... 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